The MMA Depressed-us: Evans vs. Lil’ Nog

The UFC is taking the week off, which means we have to make our own fun. But what’s more fun than watching something terrible? I mean, probably a lot of things, but that’s what we’re doing, so roll with it. This week on the MMA Depressed-us, we’re re-watching a good-bad fight (Nikita Krylov vs. Soa Palelei), a bad-bad fight (Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller), and a disappointing fight (Rashad Evans vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira). All the videos are on fight pass so you can queue up and follow along at home.

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Palelei/Krylov – 4:49
Maia/Miller – 31:05
Evans/Nog – 59:15

Video: Fabricio Werdum trades words with Tony Ferguson at UFC 216 media luncheon

Not every feud between fighters can be reasonably settled in the cage. That’s definitely the case with Fabricio Werdum’s latest beef. No, not his ongoing feud with former middleweight champion Luke Rockhold. This time, the former heavyweight champ has picked a fight with UFC lightweight interim title contender Tony Ferguson.

Ferguson and Werdum were seated next to one another during a recent UFC 216 media luncheon event, when Werdum began talking over Ferguson while both men were speaking to the press. Ferguson asked Werdum to give him a minute to finish talking and, well, things went downhill pretty quickly from there.

After that their back-and-forth jumped between Spanish, Portuguese, and English, with Werdum calling Ferguson a “maricon” or “f-—t” repeatedly. MMA Fighting translated some of the exchange:

“When I’m talking you shut your mouth,” Ferguson replied.

“Shut your mouth you fucking f****t,” Werdum responded. “Don’t talk to me like that, that’s not how it works. You can talk like that to your division but with me you can’t talk like that f****t.”

Fighting also spoke to Werdum shortly after the argument, where he gave his own account of Ferguson’s demeanor leading up to the exchange.

“I know the guy. He’s not a friend, but I know the guy. He came in with all this f*cking negative energy, I went to shake his hands and he wasn’t pleasant. That’s okay, maybe he’s focused, he’s hungry, on a diet, but that’s his problem, so I stayed cool. When I went to talk to another reporter he tells me to shut up? What is this? Are you crazy? I didn’t beat him up there because something could happen and I could lose my fight, I’d break everything there. That’s why I didn’t do anything, especially in consideration to the UFC and Chris, who was coordinating everything there. F*ck, man. How can this guy come and tell me to shut up?”

UFC 216 goes down on October 7th in Las Vegas, NV, on pay-per-view. The event is expected to be headlined by the lightweight interim title fight between Tony Ferguson and Kevin Lee. Fabricio Werdum is set to fight Derrick Lewis further down the PPV main card.

Coach says Garbrandt interested in meeting Mighty Mouse at 125 lbs: ‘It’s a gangster move’

The last time a bantamweight took interest in fighting Demetrious Johnson at flyweight, the UFC made a complete mess of it. T.J. Dillashaw – having found out his bout with Cody Garbrandt was off due to injury – called out ‘Mighty Mouse’ for a chance at the flyweight title. The UFC loved the idea and tried to get it booked as quickly as possible. But Johnson wasn’t all that keen, and what followed was a drawn out public spat between the flyweight king and Dana White.

Eventually, Dillashaw vs. Garbrandt got re-booked – the fight now goes down on November 4th at UFC 217 – but the talk about a potential bout with Demetrious Johnson hasn’t gone away. Only, it’s not Dillashaw making the overtures this time around.

In a recent interview with the Five Rounds Podcast, Team Alpha Male head coach Justin Buchholz talked about Garbrandt’s own potential interest in dropping to flyweight to face Johnson. But, it’s a move that Buchholz says needs to happen soon, before the cut gets too hard for the bantamweight champion (transcript via MMA Fighting).

“I’m confident that can happen,” Buchholz said of the idea of Garbrandt making the flyweight limit. “That’s nothing. I’ve seen a lot harder things than that. Cody can make that weight and keep his power and put the weight back on and go back to ‘35 at this point in his career, while he’s young. We know the dangers of switching weight classes and whatnot with Roy Jones Jr. and you can see the stuff with B.J. Penn. We know what we’re doing here. Everything’s a science now. You’ve got to be on top of your game so you can get the correct people and set the right systems in place. We can do it old school so that’s why I’m confident with all the new school stuff it’d be even easier.”

And while Johnson himself has said that he might be willing to return to bantamweight and challenge Garbrandt, once he’s broken the record for title defenses, Buchholz seems much more interested in seeing his fighter make the drop. Plus, if it happened quickly enough, it could prevent DJ from breaking Silva’s unofficial title defense record (one which includes his win over Travis Lutter).

“Just to do it because it’s a gangster move. At that point he’d be breaking Anderson Silva’s record so it would be for the people of Brazil. We’ll keep that record intact.”

All that provided Johnson still has the belt, of course. The flyweight champion takes on Ray Borg at UFC 216 on October 7th in Las Vegas, NV. A win there would give him the official title defense record, and maybe give fans a chance to see a fight between two UFC champions.

Gokhan Saki details UFC debut, only started training ‘MMA conditioning’ this year

Transitions between different types of combat sports aren’t the easiest things to make. Not only are different skills involved, but even seasoned athletes can find themselves suddenly at sea, as they lose the familiar bearings of their career success. Even within MMA, fighters have struggled with the transition from ring to cage and from 5-minute rounds to 10-minute rounds.

So, it’s no surprise that Gokhan Saki’s UFC debut would have its rough spots. The former world champion kickboxer returned to MMA for the first time in 13 years, taking on Henrique da Silva at UFC Fight Night: Saint Preux vs. Okami on September 23rd. ‘The Rebel’ – as he’s also known – scored a first-round KO over his Brazilian opponent, landing a trademark left hook to battle back from adversity.

Following the win, the ‘Turkish Tyson’ stopped by the MMA Hour to talk about his training in the lead up to the bout, and his expectations for the future (transcript via MMA Fighting).

“After my last fight – it was a kickboxing fight – I was always ready for three minutes. Now, it was five minutes. Like I said, I only started training this year in MMA conditioning and you cannot build it up in a couple of months.


“How I see the contest, for the first three minutes I was good, and then after three and four minutes I started to get a little bit tired but also the ring rust was coming,” he explained.

“The first time I hit him with a knockdown, he went down and when he stood up I only give power punches. Normally, in kickboxing when I was training all the time, I am thinking all the time in the fight, throwing combinations. This time I was only giving power shots.

“Now I’ve started training again already because this was my first time in an ultimate fight. It was only 50 percent. This is just the beginning. I’m really happy to be back on this big stage. I’m ready to show many, many more things.”

Saki has been one of the biggest name acquisitions for the UFC in 2017. And even at 33 (and only 1-1 in MMA) he’s already making promises to win a title belt by 2018. Apparently he’ll also be moving to the US to train for future fights, and hopes to fight once more before 2017 is out.

After Volkan Oezdemir’s recent light heavyweight run, who knows? Maybe fans will be looking at Saki as a title challenger come next year.

Tyron Woodley quotes MLK in response to NFL protests: ‘The time is always right to do what is right’

The latest wave of controversy to sweep the nation is one that has been bubbling away for months before it finally began boiling over, with the start of the 2017-18 NFL season. During the 2016 pre-season, San Francisco 49er’s quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down during the national anthem – played before NFL games across the league – in protest of police violence toward black communities.

Eventually, Kaepernick began kneeling – in deference to military service members and veterans. At the end of the year, he opted out of his contract with the 49ers, electing to enter free agency instead. And while he has been unable to find a position with another NFL team since the end of the 2016-17 season, his protest has gained a groundswell of support from other players and athletes to start this football season.

Among the athletes showing their support is current UFC welterweight champion Tyron Woodley:

And he’s joined by fighters like Leslie Smith and Corey Anderson.

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Of course, the whole thing has brought out its fair share of dissenters as well.

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Not that everyone is taking it all that seriously…

Russian light heavyweight becomes latest fighter flagged by UFC’s USADA program

USADA has created something of a new obstacle for regional MMA talent looking to jump to the UFC. Since the world’s largest MMA promotion partnered with the drug testing agency back in 2015, new incoming fighters have run up against the program with some regularity.

Emil Weber Meek notably delayed his debut with the UFC in order to ensure his compliance with their drug testing regimen. While fighters like Carlos Felipe, Nick Roehrick, Adam Hunter, Lyman Good, Felipe Olivieri, Abdul-Kerim Edilov, and Jesse Taylor have all ended up on the wrong side of suspensions before they were even able to string two fights together in the Octagon.

The latest fighter to make that inglorious list is Russian light heavyweight Azamat Murzakanov. Murzakanov was signed to the promotion back in May of 2017, with the expectation of facing Joachim Christensen at UFC Oklahoma City in June. He was eventually forced off the card due to injury and replaced by Dominick Reyes.

Today the UFC announced via press release that they had been notified that the K-Dojo Warrior Tribe fighter had failed a September 2nd out-of-competition drug test. No word yet what substance was flagged in the drug test failure, or what the result will mean in terms of delaying Murzakanov’s debut.

Video: Anderson Silva faces off with Kelvin Gastelum in China

The UFC is finally headed to mainland China; five years after their first event in Macau, back in 2012. And they’re doing it behind a middleweight contest between former UFC champion Anderson Silva and Ultimate Fighter season 17 winner Kelvin Gastelum.

This fight was originally scheduled to go down at UFC 212. Unfortunately, following his UFC Fortaleza bout against Vitor Belfort, Gastelum failed a drug test for marijuana metabolites and was suspended from action. He later returned to fight Chris Weidman at UFC on FOX 25, losing the bout via submission in the 3rd round.

Meanwhile, Anderson Silva has not competed since his February win over Derek Brunson at UFC 208. That victory broke a 5-fight win-less streak for the former middleweight champion – in part due to his own failed drug test at UFC 183, overturning what would have been a decision over Nate Diaz.

Silva and Gastelum are currently in China, promoting their upcoming bout. While there, the two men posed for their first face-off, in front of the Oriental Pearl Tower in Shanghai.

Currently, Silva vs. Gastelum is the only official bout listed for the Fight Pass event. However, reports are that two women’s bouts are also scheduled for the card, with Yanan Wu facing Gina Mazany, and Yan Xiaonan facing Kailin Curran. Stay tuned to Bloody Elbow for more news and updates as the UFC’s debut in mainland China approaches.

Paige VanZant injured, UFC 216 bout against Jessica Eye scrapped

Fans who were already turning their nose up at UFC 216 may have just found another reason to be less excited for the event. One of the first – following 2016’s Joanne Calderwood vs. Valerie Letourneau fight – women’s flyweight bouts in UFC promotional history has just been pulled from the card. Paige VanZant was expected to move up from 115 lbs and meet Jessica Eye (herself moving down from 135 lbs) on the Las Vegas fight card.

Eye hinted that trouble might be on the horizon in a post on social media early Monday, September 25th.

Other sources soon confirmed, including the UFC itself. MMA Fighting reports that VanZant suffered an “intervertebral disc injury” while grappling and has had to stop training for several weeks, per-doctor’s instruction, as a result. Apparently, due to the injury, the UFC 216 fight card will go ahead with 12 bouts, with no replacement to fight Eye expected.

The PPV, which goes down on October 7th, is expected to be headlined by an interim lightweight title fight between Tony Ferguson and Kevin Lee. A flyweight title bout between Demetrious Johnson and Ray Borg is scheduled for the co-main event. The Johnson/Borg fight was originally scheduled to headline UFC 215, before Borg fell ill during fight week. A potential win would see Johnson breaking the all-time title defense record he currently shares with Anderson Silva.

UFC Japan: Saint Preux vs. Okami – Fights to make

The UFC has another card in the books, and frankly, this is a little bit of a tough one to make heads or tails of. While the card provided it’s share of action, it was largely short on notable, meaningful bouts. So even the winners don’t come away with an easy next step to take.

But that’s just all the more reason that the UFC needs the help of some expert fantasy fight picking. And to get the job done, I’ll be using the classic Silva/Shelby model of matching fighters. That means winners against winners, losers against losers, and similarly tenured talent against one another. If you’d like to take part in the next Fights to Make column, just leave a quote below starting, “People told me, ‘You’re crazy, what are you doing?’ This, that. Sometimes, I was thinking the same after the heavy training, like, what I’m gonna do, what I’m doing. But, I am f—-ing happy, man.” I’ll pick one response from below as the winner.

Joining me this week is BE reader SonoraStorm. Now, let’s get to the fights:

Hi, I’m Xeth, SonoraStorm on BloodyElbow. I’ve been watching MMA since the mid-90s as a soldier with the 82ndAirborne, when we’d rent UFC tapes from Blockbuster and re-enact classic matches. It’s been great to see the explosion and evolution of MMA since TUF 1. Currently I’m a software engineer and data scientist, and I’m working on developing a data-driven approach to predicting MMA fights. UFC Japan didn’t have a lot of big names, so my match-making is going to be aimed more at developing fighters and keeping divisions progressing rather than selling Pay-Per-Views.

OVINCE SAINT PREUX

Xeth – OSP did what he was supposed to do – blow through a short notice middleweight. But to do it with yet another Von Flue choke…it’s the Von St. Preux now. It’s happened five times in the UFC, and he’s been the one to do it three of those five times. OSP is 34, which isn’t that old in the heavier divisions, and with Jon Jones being Jon Jones, there’s time for one last title push, in the match that was originally scheduled: OSP vs Shogun Rua.

Zane – I’m not sure going back to Shogun serves anyone that well… even OSP. I realize Shogun has revitalized himself a bit with a series of wins, but there were people actually happy to see Okami in this fight rather than getting the originally scheduled rematch. I was having all kinds of trouble thinking of an opponent for Ilir Latifi last week, but this seems like the answer to that question. Ovince St. Preux vs. Ilir Latifi.

YUSHIN OKAMI

Xeth – If you’re fighting OSP, there’s one thing you have to keep in mind at all times: do not hook OSP’s neck from guard. I wasn’t stunned to see a short-notice middleweight lose to OSP, but to see him lose by a Von Flue choke was disappointing. Film, team. It’s called studying film. Okami’s a middleweight, not a light heavyweight, so if we’re going to re-book him, it’s going to be at middleweight. Let’s give him Eric Spicely, in a win-or-go-home match.

Zane – I’d be down to watch Eric Spicely work his graps on Yushin Okami if he could, but Spicely is currently booked against the funky/tough, Gerald Meerschaert. Assuming he’s returning to 185, however, a fight against someone like Rafael Natal or Rashad Evans seems like they’d be more the right speed. Another longtime veteran with a lot to prove. If the UFC wants Okami to be more of a gatekeeper to new talent, then there’s always the recently signed Rob Wilkinson or DWTNC fighters Byrd and Neal. Still, I think Okami vs. Natal would be my first go-to.

JESSICA ANDRADE

Xeth – WOW. Andrade survived a fast start and wicked gash on her head that was pouring blood, and beat Claudia Gadelha pillar to post. Unfortunately for her, this is Joanna Jedrzejczyk’s division, and Joanna Champion may be the best to ever do it on the woman’s side (apologies to Cyborg, who lacks the competition she deserves). One school of thought would be to have Andrade fight the Joanna-Rose Namajunas winner, but if it’s Joanna, we’ve seen that fight too recently, and if it’s Rose in an all-time-upset, Joanna gets an immediate rematch. The other school of thought is rest while the UFC’s introduction of the woman’s flyweight division shakes out, which may have Joanna move up a weight class. That would be my preference, but otherwise book Andrade and the winner of Joanna-Rose.

Zane – When you have a fighter as exciting as Jessica Andrade, it almost seems like a crime to make them sit and wait. I agree, that an instant title shot likely isn’t in the cards right now, but there’s got to be something she could do while waiting for 125 to sort itself. Assuming Karolina Kowalkiewicz beats Jodie Esquibel, a fight between Kowalkiewicz and Andrade would be must see action. And it would make the winner pretty much the undisputed top contender for a second chance at a belt. However, since the goal is to not have Andrade spinning her wheels too long and waiting for someone else to fight, lets book Jessica Andrade vs. Tecia Torres. Torres has won two straight, and is a tough out for anyone in the division. Her combination of pace and toughness would make for an amazing bout with ‘Bate Estaca.’

CLAUDIA GADELHA

Xeth – Claudia looked great for the first 3 minutes of Round 1, opening a brutal cut on Jessica Andrade and showing some slick boxing, before Andrade reached into a different dimension and simply blew Gadelha out of the water. Claudia had only ever lost to Joanna Champion before this, so she’s still one of the division’s elite, but her days of contending for championships are probably over, with her new role being a gatekeeper to the elite. There’s another woman in this division with a similar profile that should make for an amazing fight: Claudia Gadelha vs Carla Esparza.

Zane – There’s no question that a bout against Esparza makes reasonable sense on paper, but I’m not convinced it would be a kind matchup to Esparza. She has yet to prove she can really win against a certain combination of skill and physicality that Gadelha absolutely represents. Assuming Namajunas doesn’t beat Joanna Jedrzejczyk, then Gadelha vs. Namajunas would be my top pick to see. If the unlikely happens, then roll with the Esparza fight. But Namajunas off a loss to Joanna ‘Champion’ feels like the better booking.

GOKHAN SAKI

Xeth – We saw what we expected to see with Gokhan Saki – elite striking that resulted in a blistering knockout, some rust from a 2.5 year lay-off, and suspect cardio. He’s 33 years old, so there’s not a lot of time to develop him as an MMA fighter. I’d like to push him substantially and see if he can take on a fighter hovering on the fringes of the top 15, and test his ground game in the process. Let’s see him take on C.B. Dollaway.

Zane – It wasn’t incredibly pretty (well, the KO was), but he got the job done. Now the question is, how do you match Saki going forward to keep him fun and not let him get run over. Dollaway certainly could lose (he has a predilection for getting KO’d hard), but if Dollaway wins, you’ve kinda burned the excitement of Saki for a guy who likely won’t be charging up the division. My instinct is to go with Aleksandar Rakic off his recent win over Francimar Barroso. A big, powerful young fighter who loves to kickbox. It’ll be good matchup for Saki, and a chance for a young kid to make his name. Steve Bosse would also be a good choice, once he returns from injury.

DONG HYUN KIM

Xeth – The UFC argues that they don’t need the Ali Act in MMA because they’re leaders in protecting fighters’ health. Meanwhile, ‘The Maestro’ beat the corpse of Takanori Gomi. You do the math. Beating Gomi by KO in the first round is table stakes at this point, so we don’t really know much more about Kim from winning this fight. Let’s have him fight Jordan Rinaldi, another 29 year old fighter, and see if either is capable of making a run at the Top 15.

Zane – ‘Maestro’ is in position to take any of a number of fights at the bottom of the lightweight division. And while he’s likely best served by taking on somewhat predictable, less athletic opponents, who let him show his offensive variety and dynamism, fans are well served pitting him against other hyper aggressive action fighters who can bring out his brawling instincts. Finding just the right balance is the trick. A fight with Damir Hadzovic would be fun, and Danny Henry would likely promise a lot of punishment traded, but I’ll lean Thibault Gouti coming off his first UFC win over Andrew Holbrook. Gouti’s technical boxing style should make for a fun matchup for DHK Jr. to try and work around.

TERUTO ISHIHARA

Xeth – Teruto won a sloppy fight that would have been a majority draw had it not been for his opponent’s propensity for below-the-belt strikes. After a dominant 10-8 round, he let Dy back into the match, primarily due to a complete lack of threat from the right side. You can see he’s growing a bit at Team Alpha Male, with slightly improved cardio and a better ground game, but he’s not ready for any kind of push – give him Peru’s Humberto Bandenay next.

Zane – Now already with 6 bouts in the promotion, it seems a little counter productive to be still chucking relative newcomers at Ishihara. At this point, it should be about continuing to give him experienced challenges and seeing what he can make of them. If Nick Hein is going to return from injury anytime soon, that would be a weird style clash of the one-handed power strikers. However, I like Teruto Ishihara vs. Enrique Barzola (the other Peruvian). Barzola’s relentless pace and funky wrestling could punish Ishihara for the continued holes in his game, or give him a chance to show he’s really developing.

JUSSIER FORMIGA

Xeth – Jussier chocked out Ulka Sasaki in the first round, continuing his trend of being the gatekeeper into the top 5. Formiga’s role in the Flyweight division at this point is well-defined: if you can beat him, you’re getting a title shot. His post-fight interview was a bit odd, which may be because of the multiple translators: he simultaneously isn’t worried about the title right now, but wants Sean Shelby and Uncle Dana to give him a title shot? Let’s pit him against another prospect knocking on the door to the Top 5, Ben Nguyen.

Zane – Yeah, no question, Ben Nguyen vs. Jussier Formiga is the best bout on the table right now. Nguyen has shown steady improvement in coalescing his athletic grappling and striking styles into a complete, high level MMA game. A bout against Formiga is exactly the kind of test he needs if he wants to turn those improvements into being a real top contender. Formiga has a habit of losing to well rounded, physically elite fighters, is Nguyen one of those? Or can he still be out-worked by a defensively savvy and technically proficient challenge like Formiga?

OTHER BOUTS: Dy vs. Bochniak, Sasaki vs. Smolka, Nakamura vs. Akhmedov, Morono vs. Alhassan, Kondo vs. Aldrich, Chan-Mi vs. Yoder, Anzai vs. Ottow, Jumeau vs. Ayari, Abe vs. Aliev

Miesha Tate on Rousey vs. Cyborg: ‘Edmond just wants another payday’

It’s no secret that Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey aren’t the best of friends. Over the course of their UFC careers, the two women developed a somewhat bitter rivalry. Centered in part around Tate’s title loss and title challenge to Rousey, and more particularly to their time as opposing coaches on the Ultimate Fighter.

And while that context can’t be ignored, Tate’s recent comments on Sirius XM Rush’s MMA Tonight podcast – directed at talk of Ronda Rousey coming back to fight Cris Cyborg – don’t sound like they’re coming from a place of dislike for the MMA superstar (transcript via MMA Fighting).

“I’m gonna give Cyborg a round of applause,” Tate said in response to Cyborg saying she wasn’t interested in a fight with Rousey, “because she wouldn’t look more like a bully than if she took that fight with Ronda. That would be ridiculous. It’s just nonsense to even think about that. I cannot believe that Edmond would suggest something so asinine.”

Tate did have a solid idea of why she thinks that Tarverdyan is making the suggestion, however; why he’d be willing to put his star pupil at risk for a 3rd straight knockout loss.

“It’s just kind of silly,” Tate said. “I think Edmond just wants another payday so he can try to pay off his bankruptcy issues, because Jiminy Christmas. Poor Ronda. I’m not her biggest fan, but I wouldn’t even want to see that fight. I’m not her biggest fan, but I wouldn’t want to see her get slaughtered by Cyborg at this point in her career, either. It’s not appealing. That’s not what this sport is about. It’s about great competitive matchups and I just don’t feel like it’s even fair to ask for something like that. If you were looking out for your athlete, why would you do that?”

In the meantime – and despite what her coach may say – there have been no signs from Rousey that she’s at all entertaining a return to MMA. Following her December 2016 defeat to Amanda Nunes, Rousey has courted a run in the WWE with her ‘Four Horsewomen’ angle and grabbed a coaching spot on Battle of the Network Stars. Back in August, Dana White told Sports Illustrated that he thinks the former champion is likely to announce her retirement in the not-too-distant future. At this point that seems more likely than Rousey returning for a shot at Cyborg and the featherweight title.